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"Global Settlement regarding Auction-Rate Securities Case Imminent" :rolleyes (CNBC)
...you pay back the the investors und schon ist alles wieder gut :bad aber natürlich nur für die grossen Betrüger :gomad die kleinen Schlitzohren wandern nach wie vor ins Gefängnis :dumm ....nachdem diese Meldung richtig breitgetreten wurde erholten sich die financials vom Tief und - wie könnte es anders sein - und Gold "erholte" :gomad sich vom Hoch :grrrr |
Also from August 13, 2007: Banking Crisis Misunderstood By MainstreamOh, oh. Naughty little children playing banker have stolen mommy's purse and daddy's pension and burned it in the oven after running it through the Cusinart. All these deals require rolling over the debts. We are sitting on a volcano filled with debt roll-overs that will not roll over at all. They will keel over dead. Trillions of dollars are going to die this way. Far more than the housing mess. The need for this money is so gross, the US, Europe, Japan and a handful of other nations not named 'China' had to squander half of their FOREX reserves to pour enough liquid into the banking system to keep these ridiculous loans coming. All those 'Look at that $22 billion dollar deal!' deals are now turning into 'Look at empty bank vault!' moments in history. http://elainemeinelsupkis.typepad.com/money_matters/ |
strk2012
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 Die Berliner Mauer am Bethaniendamm (1986) Am Sonntag, den 13. August 1961, wird unter Aufsicht von Volkspolizei und Nationaler Volksarmee (NVA) die Sektorengrenze nach West-Berlin hermetisch abgeriegelt. Überall werden Straßen aufgerissen, Panzersperren und Stacheldrahtverhaue errichtet. Die Mauer entsteht. Sie unterbricht die in Generationen gewachsenen Verbindungen zwischen beiden Teilen der Stadt......http://www.dhm.de/lemo/html/teilung...r/mauerbau.html |
How Goldman Sachs took over the world
 Goldman Sachs Tower Whether it's a credit crunch to fix or an Olympics to plan, the list ofGoldman Sachs alumni is sure to have a candidate By Stephen Foley Tuesday, 22 July 2008 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/b...rld-873869.html If there's something weird in the financial world, who you gonna call? Goldman Sachs........ John Thornton From his post as professor and director of global leadership at Tsinghua University in Beijing, the former Goldman Sachs co-chief operating officer John Thornton has become a highly-influential figure in the developing business and poltical inter-relations between the US and China. He was Goldman's boss in Asia in the mid-Nineties and remains well connected in the East and the West. Duncan Niederauer Wall Streeters joked about a Goldman Sachs "takeover" of the New York Stock Exchange. Hank Paulson, the Goldman boss on the NYSE board, moved to oust the chairman, Dick Grasso, and recommended the then chief operating officer of Goldman, John Thain, as Mr Grasso's replacement. Mr Thain modernised the exchange as demanded by Goldman, and Mr Thain's old Goldman deputy, Duncan Niederauer, is in charge. Jon Corzine The former co-chief executive of Goldman went into full-time politics in 1999, having lost the internal power struggle that preceded the company's stock-market flotation in 1999. He has been governor of New Jersey since 2006, having spent the previous six years in the US Senate. His 2000 Senate election campaign was then the most expensive ever in the US, and Corzine spent $62m of his own money. Joshua Bolten For five years until 1999, Mr Bolten served as director of legal affairs for Goldman based in London, effectively making him the bank's chief lobbyist to the EU. The Republican lawyer aided George Bush's 2000 election campaign, helped co-ordinate policy in the White House and has been the President's chief of staff since 2006. Paul Deighton The man heading London's planning for the 2012 Olympic Games, Paul Deighton amassed a fortune estimated at over £100m during his two decades at Goldman Sachs, where he had been one of its most powerful investment bankers. Robert Rubin A US Treasury secretary under Bill Clinton, Mr Rubin could once again emerge as a powerful figure in Washington if Barack Obama wins the presidency, since he has maintained his influence on Democrat politics. Mr Rubin reached the second-highest rung at Goldman, becoming co-chief operating officer before joining the US government in 1993. Gavyn Davies The ex-chairman of the BBC still has the ear of Gordon Brown, to whom he has been a good friend and informal adviser. He is married to the Prime Minister's aide Sue Nye. Mr Davies spent 15 years as an economist at Goldman. He was commissioned to report on the future funding of the BBC by Mr Brown in 1999. Two years later, he was poached to chair it. Jim Cramer This former Goldman trader is, without question, the most influential stock pundit in the US. Hectoring and shouting his investment advice nightly on his CNBC show, Mad Money, he routinely moves share prices. His primal scream against the Federal Reserve ("They know nothing") was a YouTube sensation last year, as the central bank refused to lower interest rates to ease the pain of the credit crisis on Wall Street. Robert Zoellick Goldman provided a lucrative home to Robert Zoellick, the neo-conservative Republican, between the time he quit as Condoleezza Rice's deputy at the State Department in 2006 (having not secured the job he coveted as Treasury Secretary, when it went to Hank Paulson) and his appointment last year as head of the World Bank. At Goldman he had acted as head of international affairs, a kind of global ambassador and networker-in-chief. Mario Draghi The head of the Italian central bank is another example of the revolving door between Goldman and public service. Mr Draghi had been an academic economist, an executive at the World Bank and a director-general of the Italian treasury before joining Goldman as a partner in 2002. He is becoming a significant figure in the response to the credit crisis, chairing the financial stability forum of central banks, finance ministries and regulators. Malcolm Turnbull Treasurer for the opposition Liberal Party, Mr Turnbull is one of the fastest-rising politicians in Australia. He was the aggressive advocate who took on and beat the British Government in the Spycatcher trial of the former MI5 agent Peter Walker, but he then pursued a career in business and ran Goldman Australia from 1997 to 2001, before jumping in to politics to serve as environment minister under John Howard. Hank Paulson Cometh the hour, cometh the man. President George Bush must be delighted he lured a reluctant Hank Paulson away from his $38m-a-year job as Goldman Sachs chief executive in 2006, just in time to deal with the Wall Street crisis that has engulfed the entire US economy. The bird-watching enthusiast had been a surprising choice as Treasury secretary, since his environmentalism was at odds with much of Bush's policy. |
....und das wird von einem äusserst wallstreetfreundlichen Herrn erklärt :rolleyes
also ist es sicher noch einiges tougher :o und die Welt hat sich von den Wallstreetlern über den Tisch ziehen lassen :dumm subprime derivatives http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YNyn1XGyWg&eurl= |
U.S. July consumer price index up 0.8% vs. 0.5% expected
8:31 AM ET, Aug 14, 2008 U.S. July core CPI up 0.3% vs. 0.2% expected 8:31 AM ET, Aug 14, 2008 ....hmmmm :gruebel wie war das gleich :confused je höher die Inflation desto tiefer der Goldpreis :licht  |
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 (1000+ posts)       Thu Aug-14-08 12:13 PMResponse to Original message 39. I Sure Would Like a Reasonable Explanation Why TPTB Feel Obliged  to pump the Dow up to 11,600 all the time. What is the magic there? Wouldn't it be a lot more useful to take the lumps and get it over with?If the wealthy were too unimaginative to do anything with their loot besides buy pieces of worthless paper, then let Social Darwinism take over. The inheritors of wealth (and I'm thinking W here) have proven to be recessive deadends. Let them go under so more capable people can breathe, if not rise. Nobody in his right mind could claim George, Dick, or Condi as the cream of the crop. So stop the pretense! And if this forces the criminal to abandon country ahead of schedule and hole up in Paraguay, or Dubai, that's Paraguay and Dubai's problem, isn't it? It's no skin off our nose. Trying to keep this nation of workers in chains is costing the oppressors far too much in lost opportunity, devaluing paper, and social derision. Not to mention loss of clout at home and abroad. Where is their breaking point, when they throw in the towel and try something different?   They're trying to prove their shrugger is correct and anyone who thinks differently is wrong... Prag Aug-14-08 12:17 PM #40 Remind Me of The Definition of Insanity--I Must Be Developing Alzheimers Demeter Aug-14-08 12:46 PM #42 *************************************** ....und bei CNBC läuft der Sabber :rolleyes |
...elendiger Schei**Krieg :mad
 Two refugees from the fighting shelter in a disused military hospitalGEORGIEN- KRISE Russland nutzt Lücke in Sarkozys Friedensplan Moskaus Militär operiert ungeniert im georgischen Kernland - und fühlt sich dabei im Recht. Denn im Friedensplan, den Frankreichs Staatschef Sarkozy vermittelt hat, werden dem Kreml "zusätzliche Sicherheitsmaßnahmen" zugestanden. In Berlin und Brüssel ist man alarmiert, noch mehr in Washington. Von Florian Gathmann mehr... [ Video | Forum ]
 ********************************************************* Page last updated at 17:37 GMT, Thursday, 14 August 2008 18:37 UK  US warns Russia of long-term impact US defence chief Robert Gates warns relations with Russia may be damaged but says he sees no prospect of US military deployment in Georgia. Eyewitness: Gori's fiery mix Anger smoulders in rebel city Georgians fear revenge attacks Feeling vindicated in Moscow Seeking refuge in Tbilisi BP reopens gas pipeline  High tension around Gori |
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...elendiger Schei**Krieg :mad ja, das ist so ... Trotz der normaler Weise rechtslastigen Schaukel gab es heute im Feuilleton der « NZZ » eine gute Analyse von einem Georgier : Devi Dumbadze http://www.nzz.ch/nachrichten/inter...qjRVnwL7wkGW-20 Französische Presse ist auch interessant, the broker Sarkozy wie immer zwischen Himmel und Hölle, und das auf dünnem Eis. NATO so gut wie irrelevant, die US governmental puppies recht einfältig, Haaretz inzwischen mit Ironie und Steinmeier mit Drahtseilakt – oben sein EGO, links das russische Gas, rechts Frau Merkel und unten ... ? ... nasse Hosen und das Bewusstsein, das dies noch nicht alles war im olympischen Jahr des Friedens. Die EU täte gut daran, an einem eigenem Profil zu arbeiten, die Demission von Zauberlehrling Saakashvili ist nicht zu umgehen. Er " rief die Geister ", nun Ende mit Kinderstunde ... . |
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Silberbay :supi merci :)
************************************ lolo  Registered User Quote: Originally Posted by Dizzy47  wooooooooooooW wtf just happened Anyone who cannot see the rigg after tonite, mainly in the silver market is a complete RETARD period. now they can just close all the silver mines round the globe for who in their right mind would keep on digging the stuff seriously, that would be such a blow to the Cartel freaking bastards, I wonder who will sell at these prices the longer down here the bigger the shortage will become U.S. mint suspends gold coin sales; futures price is a fiction !!!!!!! Submitted by cpowell on Fri, 2008-08-15 04:27. Section: Daily Dispatches 12:25a ET Friday, August 15, 2008 Dear Friend of GATA and Gold: The U.S. Mint has suspended sales of American Eagle gold coins and is refusing orders from dealers, two coin and bullion dealers confirmed Thursday. http://gata.org/node/6489 I bet freaking Goldman and the 8 large shorts are covering like there's no tomorrow look how it fits Goldman, aug 13 Tocom session they covered a massive amount of 1,427 short contracts and sold 27 long contracts to bring their long position to 779 contracts and their net short position to 4,962 contracts. is this their last chance to come out clean of shorts before the huge price run up? It doesn't seem to matter whether shortages exist or not.....when you can have a 10% drop in a price in less than a few minutes, as what happened with silver today, you no longer have a market. This PM disaster has taken place EXACTLY when the opposite should have occurred. July had the highest inflation rate in 17 years, we have a chance for a new world war, and we have this crap happening. Sorry, but we can no longer make any suggestions as to what any of the PM's will do. It's over....I've been reading from all sorts of folks as to how the boys are out of ammo, that they can't control things, yada yada, for several years now. When you have this kind of action, there is no point in trying to make any suggestions as to what any institution will or will not do. **************************************** :schwitz die "Macht" des grossen Geldes :bad Gold und Silber Charts nur als visuelle Erklärung - oder wie man das benennen soll :rolleyes |
Wag the Dog: How to Conceal Massive Economic Collapse
by Ellen Brown - August 15, 2008 ....."There’s a crisis in the White House, and to save the election, they’d have to fake a war." Perhaps that explains the sudden breakout of war in the Eurasian country of Georgia on August 8, just 3 months before the November elections. August 8 was the day the Olympic Games began in Beijing, a distraction that may have been timed to keep China from intervening on Russia’s behalf. The mainstream media version of events is that Russia, the bully on the block, invaded its tiny neighbor Georgia; but not all commentators agree. Mikhail Gorbachev, writing in The Washington Post on August 12, observed: "What happened on the night of Aug. 7 is beyond comprehension. The Georgian military attacked the South Ossetian capital of Tskhinvali with multiple rocket launchers designed to devastate large areas. Russia had to respond. To accuse it of aggression against "small, defenseless Georgia" is not just hypocritical but shows a lack of humanity. . . . The Georgian leadership could do this only with the perceived support and encouragement of a much more powerful force."4 Bruce Gagnon, coordinator of the Global Network against Weapons and Nuclear Power, commented in OpEdNews on August 11: "The U.S. has long been involved in supporting ‘freedom movements’ throughout this region that have been attempting to replace Russian influence with U.S. corporate control. The CIA, National Endowment for Democracy . . . , and Freedom House (includes Zbigniew Brzezinski, former CIA director James Woolsey, and Obama foreign policy adviser Anthony Lake) have been key funders and supporters of placing politicians in power throughout Central Asia that would play ball with ‘our side’. . . . None of this is about the good guys versus the bad guys. It is power bloc politics . . . . Big money is at stake . . . . Both parties (Republican and Democrat) share a bi-partisan history and agenda of advancing corporate interests in this part of the world. Obama’s advisers, just like McCain’s (one of his top advisers was recently a lobbyist for the current government in Georgia) are thick in this stew."5 Brzezinski, who is now Obama’s adviser, was Jimmy Carter’s foreign policy adviser in the 1970s. He also served in the 1970s as director of the Trilateral Commission, which he co-founded with David Rockefeller Sr., considered by some to be the "master spider" of the Wall Street banking network.6 Brzezinski later boasted of drawing Russia into war with Afghanistan in 1979, "giving to the Soviet Union its Vietnam War."7 Is the Georgia affair an attempted repeat of that coup? Mike Whitney, a popular Internet commentator, observed on August 11: "Washington’s bloody fingerprints are all over the invasion of South Ossetia. Georgia President Mikhail Saakashvili would never dream of launching a massive military attack unless he got explicit orders from his bosses at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. After all, Saakashvili owes his entire political career to American power-brokers and US intelligence agencies. If he disobeyed them, he’d be gone in a fortnight. Besides an operation like this takes months of planning and logistical support; especially if it’s perfectly timed to coincide with the beginning of the Olympic games. (another petty neocon touch) That means Pentagon planners must have been working hand in hand with Georgian generals for months in advance. Nothing was left to chance."8 Part of that careful planning may have been the unprecedented propping up of the dollar and bombing of gold and oil the week before the curtain opened on the scene. Gold and oil had to be pushed down hard to give them room to rise before anyone shouted "hyperinflation!" As we watch the curtain rise on war in Eurasia, it is well to remember that things are not always as they seem. Markets are manipulated and wars are staged by Grand Chessmen behind the scenes...... http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=9828 ....man möchte es ja lieber nicht glauben :rolleyes aber Politik/Macht sind wohl wirklich nur noch ein Drecksgeschäft :( |
Zauberlehrling Saakashvili, a taste of come what may ...
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that's it lunar - nicht mehr und nicht weniger. Die Befürchtung hatte ich schon, seit ich die posts von sit im Frühjahr las. |
Silverbay...ich/man sollte (noch) mehr lesen :rolleyes:schwitzaber auch anderen Stoff ;)
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Aussie
 :verbeug Midas Member  Some clarity from Bill Buckler aka: The Privateer It is tempting to come to the conclusion that the huge spike in the USDX which gathered momentum early this week and then broke its bonds on August 8 is some kind of clandestine international US Dollar intervention. There have certainly been no lack of precedents for such actions over the past two decades. Indeed, in mid July as the CRB index and the oil price were peaking, there was a short-lived series of articles in the US financial press arguing the case for another episode of "co-ordinated" currency intervention. But we think the US Dollar surge on August 8 has a much simpler explanation. Similar to what happened to US stock markets in the wake of the SEC's decision to outlaw "naked short selling" on Fannie, Freddie and seventeen other US financial stocks, this was a plain and simple short cover rally. If this is the case, and we think it is, then the USDX may have more rises ahead of it in the immediate future. The short interest in the US Dollar is vast and has been built up over many years. But a short cover rally on the US Dollar is also dangerous in the extreme to not only the US but to the global financial and monetary system. Shorts are captive buyers, they must buy to take their profits. Once they close out their positions by buying, their ability to cushion falls in the market is no longer there. As Doug Noland puts it: "If today's dislocation develops into a significant unwind of these positions (short the US Dollar), the market then immediately becomes vulnerable to a disorderly 'melt up' followed almost inevibably by a sharp reversal and disorderly decline." Doug is very polite here. We would call it a sucker rally followed by a bloodbath. The "hedge" against the freefall of financial paper markets - the commodities price boom - has turned turtle. On top of that, the hedge against the currency backing this financial paper - the US Dollar - has started to unwind in a huge short cover rally. Foreign holders of US Dollar denominated debt instruments have had presented to them a (you should pardon the expression) "golden" opportunity to take advantage of this rally to start selling their $US paper. So have foreign central banks, who may well have participated in the short cover rally itself. Gold (and Silver) are commodities, that is true. But they are also alternative MONEYS. In the final analysis, if one wants to protect one's future purchasing power against the regulatory destruction now being perpetrated on the global financial system, there is nowhere else to go. That is why they are so detested by all politicians and all commercial and central bankers. They are the one means to get OUTSIDE the system, and those who run the system literally cannot afford for anyone to break ranks in the current mess. We have no idea how long this US Dollar rally can last and how high it will go. We are certein that once it runs out of steam, the US Dollar will plummet again. When any market, no matter how large or "vital", loses its "captive buyers", a subsequent massive fall is absolutely assured. And what of Gold's short interest? Well, the "longs" have certainly run for the exits on the paper futures markets but the "shorts" have not filled the hole they left. Open interest on Gold is down by almost 120,000 contracts or nearly 25% since it peaked at 496,778 contracts on July 18. Permission hereby given to quote short excerpts - provided full attribution is given: © 2008 - The Privateer http://www.the-privateer.com capt@the-privateer.com ....ob es so ist/kommen wird :nw aber es zeigt doch erschreckend wie alles zum Spielball der GeldMafia geworden ist :mad nicht, dass das früher nicht war - aber jetzt doch in einem enormen Ausmass und weltweit :rolleyes |
Q2 GDP: Gross Leveraged Lie
Jim Willie CB is the editor of the "Hat Trick Letter" Aug 15, 2008 .....### THE USGOVT G.D.P. FOR 2Q2008 SHOULD HAVE BEEN MINUS 2% ### Here are the highlighted basic facts from the official USGovt economic growth GDP lie:
......The Powerz are attempting to push down gold and dollar up as much as possible before the orchestrated autumn bank sector PULLED PLUG. Dozens of US banks are going to go bust. Also, the geopolitical chessboard seems badly tilted, adding to US financial vulnerability to the extreme. The Global War for Energy just witnessed a serious counter-attack by Putin. He must have looked into the US president's eyes last month at the summit and seen little to impress, along with a lame duck in office. The tsunami should come this autumn, one to inflict serious damage on the USDollar. The gold trade is still an anti-US$ trade. A difficult transition is in progress for gold to become the global monetary inflation trade. A new foundation on futures contracts must be built. The past gold trade built upon anti-US$ foundation has been largely eroded. The next one to be built upon monetary ease and huge accommodation by major and secondary central banks, in reaction to global recession. A tough transition must occur. Soon gold is to become the hedge against global monetary inflation, as central banks fight at least a Western world economic recession, that includes Japan, Australia, and New Zealand. The USDollar fundamentals remain extraordinarily weak, and weaker than just a couple months ago. USGovt deficits have doubled in the last year. Tax revenues are way down, like 10% down annually, another confirmation of the recession. Foreclosures for US homes rose by 55% in July, a sign of continued nightmare. Housing prices are accelerating down, as lending institutions holding properties have begun to cave in on price to sell at a time when foreclosures continue in their other doors. The new reality in the housing industry is that two markets are apparent and at work, one influencing the other. There are houses demanded and supplied for the public. There are foreclosures entering and being disposed. In recent months, the foreclosed properties are increasingly dominant, not only making up 30% to 40% of final sales, but continuing relentlessly to supply more homes to be sold, upsetting the balance...... full story: http://www.321gold.com/editorials/w...llie081508.html ...er sieht's ja ziemlich düster :schwitz wenn es mir auch realistisch scheint :rolleyes aber eben - man weiss ja nie was die GeldMafia noch alles aus dem Hut zaubert :gruebel |
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Saturday, 16 August 2008 07:52 BOND REPORT: Treasurys Rise After Economic, TIC Data getting a boost from a jump in foreign purchases of U.S. assets in June, as traders also digested reports showing a rise in U.S. factory output and tentative recovery in New York state manufacturing. Ten-year Treasury note yields (UST10Y), which move inversely to prices, fell 3 basis points to 3.862%. Two-year note yields (UST2YR) slipped 5 basis points to 2.391%. 'Yields headed south into the better round of June TIC data,' said analysts at Action... READ FULL ARTICLE Jim Sinclair schreibt dazu: .....You also know about the odd Fed statement that the Begging Bowl loan window might open to non-US financial entities. The recent TIC report of Treasury purchases by non-US sources raises the question of whether non-US entities are already at the US Fed Begging Bowl loan window. The reason I say this is that the Begging Bowl pays in US Treasury issues, not cash, in exchange for garbage OTC derivative paper as securitized instruments. That would trigger a TIC positive event reporting that non-US entities have bought US Treasury instruments. ....hat da jemand Wissen/Meinung dazu :confused Begging Bowl - der Zauberhut Paulson/FED :confused:rolleyes |
sirgiyan
:verbeug Registered User IT'S A MUST!!! PAY ATTENTION HERE!!! Just listen to this and think a bit. We met the enemy and the enemy is us! http://cyclesman.com/Interviews/JohnTony081508.mp3 :schwitz:schwitz:schwitz ...das ist eine harte Nuss - aber wirklich "it's a must" :supi ob einem jetzt die Ansichten passen oder nicht :o es ist lang und ziemlich mühsam, da die Lautstärken unterschiedlich sind - aber wirklich es lohnt sich :cool |
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das hört sich wohl so an, wie vermutet. La "FED" redete die Rezession hoch und nun « schwingen » wir directly into the depression / deflation klingt hier etwas blumiger. Die ganze "kaka", wie mein kleiner zu sagen pflegt, ist bereits von den "war- lords" angerichtet – einmal sehen, wer nun zu Tisch gebeten wird. Klar ist, dass die letztliche Bestätigung einer Deflation Washington zum allerletzten Mittel greifen lässt – ich hoffe, dass dies irgendwie verhindert werden kann. . |
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Three Scenarios for the US Dollar and Equity Rallies As you may have noticed we have been experiencing a powerful counter-trend rally in the US dollar and financials assets including stocks, especially the financials and the broader indices like the Russell, and the US Bonds. Certain commodities like oil, gold and silver have gotten beaten like a rented mule. Why has this occurred with such sudden power? Here are several scenarios worth considering.
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:verbeug Registered User The Endgame Nears For Fannie and Freddie By Barrons Aug. 16, 2008 IT MAY BE CURTAINS SOON FOR THE MANAGEMENTS and shareholders of beleaguered housing giants It is growing increasingly likely that the Treasury will recapitalize Fannie and Freddie in the months ahead on the taxpayer's dime, availing itself of powers granted it under the new housing bill signed into law last month. Such a move almost certainly would wipe out existing holders of the agencies' common stock, with preferred shareholders and even holders of the two entities' $19 billion of subordinated debt also suffering losses. Barron's first raised the possibility of a government takeover of Fannie and Freddie in a March 10 cover story, "Is Fannie Mae Toast?" Heaven knows, the two government-sponsored enterprises, or GSEs, both need resuscitation. Soaring mortgage delinquencies and foreclosures have led the companies to gush red ink for the past four quarters, and their managements concede the outlook is even grimmer well into next year. Shares of Fannie Mae (ticker: FNM) and Freddie Mac (FRE) have lost around 90% of their value in the past year, with Fannie now trading at $7.91, and Freddie at $5.88. Similarly, the balance sheets of both companies have been destroyed. On a fair-value basis, in which the value of assets and liabilities is marked to immediate-liquidation value, Freddie would have had a negative net worth of $5.6 billion as of June 30, while Fannie's equity eroded to $12.5 billion from a fair value of $36 billion at the end of last year. That $12.5 billion isn't much of a cushion for a $2.8 trillion book of owned or guaranteed mortgage assets. What's more, the fair-value figures reported by the companies may overstate the value of their assets significantly. By some calculations each company is around $50 billion in the hole. But more on that later. Bringing Fannie and Freddie to heel will be difficult for the Bush administration, despite the GSEs' (Government-Sponsored Enterprises') parlous financial condition. Consider their history. In the early 1980s Fannie was effectively insolvent, but the government allowed it to continue operating. Eventually long-term interest rates dropped, bolstering the value of the company's mortgages and bringing it back from the brink. Earlier in the current decade Fannie and Freddie successfully fought a full-scale attempt by the White House and some brave Republican legislators to clamp down on their operations, after they were caught perpetrating accounting frauds. Note, too, that Fannie and Freddie have nonpareil lobbying operations and formidable political strength, owing to their hefty donations and penchant for hiring former political operatives. Besides, the agencies claim they've landed in their current predicament through no fault of their own. As Freddie Mac Chairman and CEO Richard Syron recently put it, the GSEs have been hit by a "100-year storm" in the housing market, accentuated by some higher-risk mortgages that they were forced to buy to meet government affordable-housing targets. The latter contention is more than disingenuous. A substantial portion of Fannie's and Freddie's credit losses comes from $337 billion and $237 billion, respectively, of Alt-A mortgages that the agencies imprudently bought or guaranteed in recent years to boost their market share. These are mortgages for which little or no attempt was made to verify the borrowers' income or net worth. The principal balances were much higher than those of mortgages typically made to low-income borrowers. In short, Alt-A mortgages were a hallmark of real-estate speculation in the ex-urbs of Las Vegas or Los Angeles, not predatory lending to low-income folks in the inner cities. In the current bailout the Bush administration is playing from strength. Not only have the GSEs' stocks been decimated, but trading in their debt -- whether the $1.6 trillion of corporate obligations or $3.6 trillion of mortgage-backed securities the two have guaranteed -- would have been in disarray had the recent housing bill not made explicit the U.S. government's backing of that debt. Even so, GSE debt spreads are starting to widen, relative to Treasury yields. An insider in the Bush administration tells Barron's Fannie and Freddie are being jawboned by the Treasury Department and their new regulator, the Federal Housing Finance Agency (FHFA), to raise more equity. But government officials don't expect the agencies to succeed. http://www.marketwatch.com/news/stor...-AAA215724943} |
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News-ID: 723264 Schweiz: In den letzten fünf Jahren wurden acht Babys zu Tode geschüttelt Der Kinderarzt Ulrich Lips aus Zürich hat zusammen mit dem Bund Schweizer Kinderärzte 2002 angefangen, Kopfverletzungen bei Babys genauer zu untersuchen, um festzustellen, ob ein Kind totgeschüttelt wurde. Bis zur Mitte des Jahres 2007 wurden 53 Verdachtsfälle gemeldet: 50 Säuglinge wurden tatsächlich heftig geschüttelt. Von diesen Fällen starben acht Kinder. 20 % dieser Babys werden mit schweren Behinderungen leben müssen und ein Drittel wird leicht behindert bleiben. Ein weiteres Drittel von den 50 Babys hat das Schütteltrauma unbeschadet überlebt. Im Durchschnitt lag das Alter der Säuglinge bei etwa sieben Monaten. Es soll allerdings auch eine Dunkelziffer geben, aus 13 Kantonen kam keine Meldung. Kinderarzt Lips glaubt nicht, dass es in den letzten fünf Jahren dort keinen einzigen Fall gab. http://www.shortnews.de/start.cfm?id=723264 ...es sollen meistens Männer/Väter gewesen sein - völlig entnervt ob des BabySchreiens, wobei kaum eine böse Absicht dahinter stecke :rolleyes laut schweiz. Nachrichten soll das im europäischen Durchschnitt liegen :rolleyes und Aufklärung sei notwendig :schwitz |
...und weiter mit dem FED-Krimi - hätte nie gedacht, dass ich mal eine Krimi-Leserin werde ;):hihi es ist wirklich spannend :cool ist natürlich vieles schon bekannt ;)
The Goldsmiths--Part I -- Posted Monday, 18 August 2008 | Digg This Article  | Source: GoldSeek.com By R.D. Bradshaw
In March 2008, gold hit a high of around $1030 per ounce. By mid-August, it had collapsed to $772. Similar falls happened to most of the commodities and foreign currencies. Wheat went from a high of $13-15 to $7-8 per bushel; Silver, soybeans and corn all crashed as well. Even the EURO currency went from almost $1.60 to $1.46 and oil fell from $149 to $111. Here, the question must be asked--how is it possible that these prices can collapse in just a matter of days? For the answer, one must address the subject of the historic goldsmiths and how they are still around today and still making money--like never before. This article and two succeeding ones will broach this theme. As a backdrop on this topic, here are a couple of quotes. Per Thomas Jefferson, in 1800, “Everything predicted by the enemies of banks...is now coming to pass. We are to be ruined by a deluge of bank paper” (Dec 2002, “Radio Liberty,” p. 1). In 1850, Thomas Webster added: “Of all the contrivances for cheating the laboring classes of mankind, none has been more effective than that which deludes them with paper money” (ibid, p. 1). Some History
The story of banking and paper money evidently started with ancient goldsmiths. In the early days, it was a known axiom that gold and silver particularly (and other precious metals and stones as well) were recognized as things of value and could be used for exchange purposes. Accordingly, goldsmiths appeared on the scene to provide some services for people with gold....... .....The only problem with this system was that when the goldsmith issued more receipts than there was gold he ran the risk of facing a run on his operation and would not be able to cover all of the receipts he had issued. Of course, people not receiving gold for their receipts would get mad and often hang the goldsmiths. Goldsmithing could be a risky business whenever the goldsmiths tried to cheat the public (which was often)......(das waren noch Zeiten :supi) .....King Louie was persuaded by some bankers to issue huge quantities of paper money which were not backed by gold or hard assets. Inflation took off and the people ultimately got fed up with conditions. They rose up in rebellion and proceeded to chop Louie’s head off (along with numbers of other government leaders).......:o Moving in on the US .....The next step needed to sell this thing was to allow the president to appoint a seven member overall board of governors. But wisely, the bankers organized their system by making this board a figure head operation when they wisely created a controlling entity called the Federal Open Market Committee (FOMC). The FOMC makes the key decisions for the central bank. Though the so-called board of governors are members of the FOMC, the Fed law wisely provided that all 12 participating private bankers are full participants in all FOMC meetings, discussions, plans and activities--although only five of these private bankers can vote on Fed actions at FOMC meetings..... .......If the Fed loses five or ten billion dollars in Fed notes in the markets, it is no big deal because the Fed can simply print more of them (although it should be obvious to anyone above the idiot level that this squander of money belongs to US taxpayers who will have to pick up the liability for all of these Federal Reserve Notes and bank credits which have been liberally distributed around the world to make profits for the Fed owners and insiders). This type of Fed information on Fed actions is highly secret and no one knows much about it except the Fed’s secret owners, people on the inside in the Fed, and brokers who execute orders for the Fed. Of course, it goes without saying that these insiders do tip off and keep some of their friends, relatives and colleagues apprised of what all is going on. Thus, Fed owners (seemingly like the Rockefellers, Warburgs, Lazards and Rothschilds), agents (like perhaps JP Morgan-Chase and Goldman-Sachs) and friends (maybe George Soros) will always know in advance which way things are going in order to make huge profits...... ....Thus, the people who control or have access to the Fed (i.e., the large international banks and bankers—possibly like the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Warburgs, City Bank of NY, J. P. Morgan-Chase, Bank of NY, Kuhn Loeb and Company, Goldman-Sachs, etc--but this list does not include most of the small town local banks which are not privy to this operation) also own or control the US media powers (like ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, AOL-Time-Warner, the Washington Post, Newsweek, etc)...... .....Probably, the international bankers running things hope to contain the collapse when it comes in order to preserve the Fed. But maybe things will get out of hand and they will lose control (as they almost did in 1929). In fact, maybe the US government will be totally and completely destroyed in the coming upheaval. If this happens, there will be no Federal Reserve Bank or dollar to run things in America for any period of time...... .....The artificial push-up of the US dollar by the Fed and various central banks in the past several weeks does not change reality. The US dollar is sick and weak. It is going down the tubes in a crash—not whether, but only of when..... ....Yes, the real problem has been and is with the American political leaders who have willingly debased and corrupted the American money system (in order to get votes and be re-elected). And it is the plutocratic rulers who supply much of the money to politicians for them to be re-elected. Tragically, many Americans are obsessed with the nonsense that the US is a republic or democracy. The truth is that it is a plutocracy ruled by the super rich, many of whom are goldsmiths/bankers. -- Posted Monday, 18 August 2008 full story: http://news.goldseek.com/GoldSeek/1219039500.php ...leider habe ich über den Autor - R.D. Bradshaw - nichts gefunden :( |
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(1000+ posts) Mon Aug-18-08 06:24 AMResponse to Reply #5 15. Morgan Stanley, Goldman change lending systems -FT Aug 18 (Reuters) - Morgan Stanley (MS.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) and Goldman Sachs (GS.N: Quote, Profile, Research, Stock Buzz) are responding to the credit crisis with a system that uses the market's view of their own creditworthiness as a basis for lending decisions, the Financial Times reported. Wall Street's second-largest investment bank Morgan Stanley is essentially tying its promise to provide financing to hedge fund clients to the price of credit insurance on its own debt, it said. If the cost of the protection rises to a certain level, that would trigger a reduction in Morgan Stanley's commitments to hedge funds, the quoted people familiar with the situation as saying. The message is that "if our firm is in trouble, we would rather fund ourselves than fund you (hedge funds)," the paper quoted a brokerage executive with knowledge of the arrangements as saying. Goldman Sachs, which has largely avoided the credit losses hobbling its rivals, is understood to have a similar arrangement that uses its bond prices as a reference point for credit commitments to hedge fund clients, the paper said. http://www.reuters.com/article/mark...0080818?sp=true ...als ob die schon mal anders gehandelt hätten :o |
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(1000+ posts) Mon Aug-18-08 06:12 AMResponse to Original message 8. Bernanke Tries to Define What Institutions Fed Could Let Fail  Aug. 18 (Bloomberg) -- Ben S. Bernanke is still trying to define which financial institutions it's safe to let fail. The longer it takes him to decide, the tougher the decision becomes.In the year since credit markets seized up, the 54-year- old Federal Reserve chairman has repeatedly expanded the central bank's protective role, turning its balance sheet into a parking lot for Wall Street's hard-to-finance bonds and offering loans through its discount window to investment banks and mortgage firms Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. The lack of clearly defined limits may put the Fed's independence at risk as Congress discovers that its $900 billion portfolio can be used for emergency bailouts that might otherwise require politically sensitive appropriations and taxes. ... He granted a congressional request to accept bonds backed by student loans as collateral for Fed securities loans. And he didn't object when Congress inserted a provision into the housing bill signed into law last month that makes it easier for the Fed to lend to failed banks under government control. http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?...c&refer=economy   Is he getting leery of helicopters now? Roland99 Aug-18-08 06:59 AM #19 Finding Self in Hole - Bernanke digs Deeper UpInArms Aug-18-08 07:56 AM #27 How to solve the financial crisis? Play for time, pray for markets to turn. UpInArms Aug-18-08 08:44 AM #40  So, not just usury, but usury with no possible downside. Ghost Dog Aug-18-08 10:22 AM #51 Moral Hazad? ....Moral Shmazard! MilesColtrane Aug-18-08 09:19 AM #43....schade, dass es keine Wetten gibt auf die, welche sicher nicht fallen gelassen werden, obwohl - das wissen ja eh alle :o:mad ``The Fed has a terrific reputation as a credible institution. We have to be cautious not to undertake things that put that credibility at risk.'' :kiff |
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US bank 'to fail within months'  A "whopper" bank is going to "go under", Mr Rogoff saidThe global financial crisis is set to get worse, with a large US bank likely to collapse in the next few months, a former IMF chief economist has warned. Kenneth Rogoff's comments came as shares in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac sank on a report that the home lenders would, in effect, be nationalised. Despite hopes that the US economy had turned the corner, Mr Rogoff claimed it was "not out of the woods". "I would even go further to say 'the worst is to come'," he said. "We're not just going to see mid-sized banks go under in the next few months," said Mr Rogoff, who held the IMF role between 2001 and 2004. "We're going to see a whopper, we're going to see a big one, one of the big investment banks or big banks."..... full story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7569903.stm |
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Woodward exposes Bush "secrets"
The Associated Press Article Launched: 08/19/2008 12:30:00 AM MDT  NEW YORK — The name of Bob Woodward's fourth investigative work on the Bush administration has finally been revealed, just three weeks before the book's release. "The War Within: A Secret White House History 2006-2008" will be published Sept. 8 by Simon & Schuster with an announced first printing of 900,000 copies. "There has not been such an authoritative and intimate account of presidential decision-making since the Nixon tapes and the Pentagon Papers," Woodward's longtime editor, Alice Mayhew, said Tuesday. "This is the declassification of what went on in secret, behind the scenes." http://www.currentargus.com/littleargus/ci_10240753 Just in time to be years too late |
August 19, 2008
The Mindlessness is Total Are You Ready for Nuclear War? By PAUL CRAIG ROBERTS
Pervez Musharraf, the puppet installed by the US to rule Pakistan in the interest of US hegemony, resigned August 18 to avoid impeachment. Karl Rove and the Diebold electronic voting machines were unable to control the result of the last election in Pakistan, the result of which gave Pakistanis a bigger voice in their government than America’s. :rolleyes
It was obvious to anyone with any sense -- which excludes the entire Bush Regime and almost all of the “foreign policy community -- that the illegal and gratuitous US invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, and Israel’s 2006 bombing of Lebanon civilians with US blessing, would result in the overthrow of America’s Pakistani puppet.The imbecilic Bush Regime ensured Musharraf’s overthrow by pressuring their puppet to conduct military operations against tribesmen in Pakistani border areas, whose loyalties were to fellow Muslims and not to American hegemony. When Musharraf’s military operations didn’t produce the desired result, the idiotic Americans began conducting their own military operations within Pakistan with bombs and missiles. This finished off Musharraf...... Paul Craig Roberts was Assistant Secretary of the Treasury in the Reagan administration. He was Associate Editor of the Wall Street Journal editorial page and Contributing Editor of National Review. He is coauthor of The Tyranny of Good Intentions.He can be reached at: PaulCraigRoberts@yahoo.com full story: http://www.counterpunch.com/roberts08192008.html ...ein ziemlich heftiger Artikel :schwitzscheint aber ein Kenner der Umstände zu sein :rolleyes um so mehr :schwitz |
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(1000+ posts) Wed Aug-20-08 06:19 AMResponse to Reply #7 13. Paulson Playing Chicken With Markets: Guess Who Will Win? (GSE Edition) http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2008/08/paulson-playing-... James Carville, Clinton strategist, said, I used to think if there was reincarnation, I wanted to come back as the President or the Pope or a .400 baseball hitter, but now I want to come back as the bond market. You can intimidate everybody. If a politico like Carville recognized the fixed income market as an irresistible force, you'd think a Wall Street pro like Henry Paulson would give it the respect it deserves. But peculiarly, he has been acting as if he can bluster his way through a mushrooming crisis of confidence in Fannie and Freddie. A Barron's report over the weekend saying that the Treasury would buy GSE preference shares (and wipe out equity holders) if the companies failed to raise new equity sent the shares into a downdraft, with Freddie's falling 25% and Fannie's, 22%, triggering a broader market fall in the US that continued overnight in Tokyo. More troubling, GSE debt also fell, as Accrued Interest reported: GSE securities of all types getting hit hard today. Interestingly, both the common and preferred shares are down ~20%. Sub debt some 200bps wider with poor liquidity. Even senior paper is 7-8bps wider on the day. MBS look to be only about 4bps wider. I've heard there has been panicky selling by retail investors in Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae senior notes. One trader told me he's been up to his eyeballs in 100 bond lots today. Haven't heard of aggressive Asian selling, but with zero buying there are clearly net outflows from overseas. So what reaction did this mini-meltdown elicit from the Administration? The Wall Street Journal tells us: In early July, a previous plunge in the companies' shares prompted the U.S. Treasury to announce a package of measures aimed at shoring up investor confidence. Among other things, the Treasury said it would lend money to the companies or make equity investments in them if needed. "As the secretary has said many times, we have no plans on using the authority," Treasury spokeswoman Jennifer Zuccarelli said Monday, referring to Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson. This is about as lame as it gets. I'm sure a PR pro could do better, but the right response is reassurance from Paulson himself: the markets are on the mend, yes, there may be bumps but things are getting better, we are on the case, will act if necessary but don't see the need, Freddie and Fannie have plans in progress to improve their balance sheets. That probably wouldn't undo what Barron's hath wrought, but it would halt the slide and produce at least a partial reversal. Investors want to hear that the powers that be are engaged and willing to pull the trigger. What is even worse from the Adminsitration's standpoint is that savvy observers see the bailout plan as a sham. As the Financial Times reports: The Treasury dismissed the report as “speculation”. It told the Financial Times it still had no intention of using its newly authorised power to invest in either the debt or equity of Fannie and Freddie. The question is whether it may be forced to do so. The logic of the plan unveiled on July 13 was that the market would be reassured by the Treasury obtaining authority to invest in Fannie and Freddie, reducing the likelihood that the government would actually have to bail them out.... “Hank Paulson’s gamble is that if the Treasury commits to investing in Fannie and Freddie it will never have to put money in,” said Alex Pollock, a fellow at the American Enterprise Institute. In other words, this was all meant to be a bluff. But the markets have called the bluff in very short order. And given the lousy and certain-not-to-get-better-anytime-soon condition of Freddie and Fannie, this outcome was entirely predictable. What is ever weirder about the Administration's inept denials is that they seem to be quietly moving forward in examining rescue options. A Wall Street Journal editorial, "When Henry Met Fannie," tells us: Meantime, Treasury claims it has no plans to inject taxpayer money directly into the companies. Even so, Mr. Paulson has quietly hired Morgan Stanley, the investment bank, to look into "appropriate capital structures" if he does decide to sign the blank check that Congress has given him. Robert Scully, the Morgan banker who will lead the effort, is by all accounts a straight shooter. And he will need to be, given the enormous political pressure he will soon face from Fannie Mae's defenders, both at Morgan and in Washington. Morgan Stanley says it is forgoing any other investment banking business with Fan and Fred while it works for Treasury. But until recently it was among the banks advising Freddie on that elusive $5.5 billion capital infusion. Morgan Stanley is also home to Kenneth Posner, one of the biggest Fan and Fred cheerleaders on Wall Street. Only last March, the analyst crowed about the "complete defeat" of the "anti-GSE ideologues" -- that is, the people who had been right all long about the reckless risks the companies were taking. Mr. Posner also predicted that Fannie and Freddie would return to breakeven by the third quarter. Mr. Scully shouldn't be caught in the same intellectual area code as Mr. Posner. Disclosure: I knew Scully early on in his career. He is indeed as upstanding as they come in investment banking (yes, that is an oxymoron), very well regarded. So why is Paulson unhelpfully (as far as market confidence is concerned) denying that he will salvage the GSEs, yet moving forward to develop plans to do precisely that? Oh, I forgot. The SIV rescue plan. Hope Now Alliance. Getting China to open its financial markets. Having JP Morgan buy Bear for $2 a share. Execution has not been the Adminstration's or Paulson's strong suit. Why should now be any different?  |
...ein Spruch der immer und immer wieder bei den CNBClern (total Wallstreet hörig) auftaucht - das müsste ihnen doch selber zu denken geben :rolleyes
"....what does Goldman Sachs know - what others might not" |
...das scheint auch ein Schrecken ohne Ende zu sein :(
Taliban Escalate Fighting With Assault on U.S. Base  Rafiq Maqbool/Associated PressA French armored vehicle on its way to Sarobi, where insurgents killed 10 paratroopers Tuesday. By CARLOTTA GALL and SANGAR RAHIMI Published: August 19, 2008 BAMIYAN, Afghanistan — Taliban insurgents mounted their most serious attacks in six years of fighting in Afghanistan over the last two days, including a coordinated assault by at least 10 suicide bombers against one of the largest American military bases in the country, and another by about 100 insurgents who killed 10 elite French paratroopers..... full story: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/20/w...r=1&oref=slogin |
gesehen bei ---> Jesse's Café Américain - merci
....eben immer wieder erfrischend (wie und das er es sagt - nicht was er sagt, das ist eher deprimierend :()
Tuesday, August 19th, 2008 Exclusive Interview: Jim Rogers Predicts Bigger Financial Shocks Loom, Fueling a Malaise That May Last for Years [The First of Two Parts.] Keith Fitz-Gerald Investment Director Money Morning/The Money Map Report VANCOUVER, B.C. – The U.S. financial crisis has cut so deep – and the government has taken on so much debt in misguided attempts to bail out such companies as Fannie Mae (FNM) and Freddie Mac (FRE) – that even larger financial shocks are still to come, global investing guru Jim Rogers said in an exclusive interview with Money Morning. Indeed, the U.S. financial debacle is now so ingrained – and a so-called “Super Crash” so likely – that most Americans alive today won’t be around by the time the last of this credit-market mess is finally cleared away – if it ever is, Rogers said. The end of this crisis “is a long way away,” Rogers said. “In fact, it may not be in our lifetimes.” During a 40-minute interview during a wealth-management conference in this West Coast Canadian city last month, Rogers also said that:
.....(Q):What would Chairman Bernanke have to do to “get it right?” Rogers: Resign...... .......(Q):Earlier this year, when we talked in Singapore, you made the observation that the average American still doesn’t know anything’s wrong – that anything’s happening. Is that still the case? Rogers:Yes. (Q):What would you tell the “Average Joe” in no-nonsense terms? Rogers:I would say that for the last 200 years, America’s elected politicians and scoundrels have built up $5 trillion in debt. In the last few weekends, some un-elected officials added another $5 trillion to America’s national debt. Suddenly we’re on the hook for another $5 trillion. There have been attempts to explain this to the public, about what’s happening with the debt, and with the fact that America’s situation is deteriorating in the world. I don’t know why it doesn’t sink in. People have other things on their minds, or don’t want to be bothered. Too complicated, or whatever. I’m sure when the [British Empire] declined there were many people who rang the bell and said: “Guys, we’re making too many mistakes here in the U.K.” And nobody listened until it was too late. When Spain was in decline, when Rome was in decline, I’m sure there were people who noticed that things were going wrong..... .....It was similar in the United Kingdom. In 1918, the U.K. was the richest, most powerful country in the world. It had just won the First World War, et cetera. By 1939, it had exchange controls and this is in just one generation. And strict exchange controls. They in fact made it an act of treason for people to use anything except the pound sterling in settling debts. (Q): Treason? Wow, I didn’t know that. Rogers:Yes…an act of treason. It used to be that people could use anything they wanted as money. Gold or other metals. Banks would issue their own currencies. Anything. You could even use other people’s currencies. Things were so bad in the U.K. in the 1930s they made it an act of treason to use anything except sterling and then by ’39 they had full-exchange controls. And then, of course, they had the war and that disaster. It was a disaster before the war. The war just exacerbated the problems. And by the mid-70s, the U.K. was bankrupt. They could not sell long-term government bonds. Remember, this is a country that two generations or three generations before had been the richest most powerful country in the world. Now the only thing that saved the U.K. was the North Sea oil fields, even though Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher likes to take credit, but Margaret Thatcher has good PR. Margaret Thatcher came into office in 1979 and North Sea oil started flowing. And the U.K. suddenly had a huge balance-of-payment surplus. You know, even if Mother Teresa had come in [as prime minister] in ’79, or Joseph Stalin, or whomever had come in 1979 – you know, Jimmy Carter, George Bush, whomever – it still would’ve been great. You give me the largest oil field in the world and I’ll show you a good time, too. That’s what happened..... .....(Q): That’s going to be terrifying for individual investors to think about. Rogers:Yeah. But remember that America had such a magnificent and gigantic position of dominance that deterioration will take time. You know, you don’t just change that in a decade or two. It takes a lot of hard work by a lot of incompetent people to change the situation. The U.K. situation I just explained…that decline was over 40 or 50 years, but they had so much money they could have continued to spiral downward for a long time.... full story: http://www.moneymorning.com/2008/08/19/jim-rogers/ |
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